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Leo Marshall Powershoot - Sponsored by UrbMob (Qmobile)
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Ok guys, I've told you before I'm all about getting models paid. So here it is. Please read carefully.

There are two powershoots. One is specifically for your mainstream portfolio and will cost $150.00 The other is for swimwear and the cost is sponsored by urbmob (AKA Qmobile). Any model casted for the second shoot will incur no fees.

The photographer is Leo Marshall. I'm his apprentice and I will be there on set assisting as well. Hair and makeup is provided for both shoots and the dates are Dec. 8th & 9th. You tell us the day you prefer to shoot. We will make the final choice.

Why the short notice? We just decided to offer this to the public. It was agency only. This is the first notice I'm posting. A total of 60 models will be accepted. First come - First serve and no special considerations will be made. I.E. We have a stringent process. Asking me or others involved to hook you up with a slot won't work (sorry I find I always have to say this).

Personally, I feel this is a great oppurtunity to shoot with a A-list photographer.

The first powershoot is geared towards fashion, beuaty and glamour. It will cost $150.00. You provide your own wardrobe. Sponsorship has allowed us to promote this at 1/4 of the regular rate without hair & makeup. Paul Mitchell's design team will do hair & makeup. A normal shoot with our hair and makeup staff would normally run about $800 for 2 looks per person.

The second powershoot is moderated. It is sponsored by Urbmob and they currently are the largest seller of wallpapers, and images in the country. They are exclusively licensed to sell images of non-mainstream celebrities like Mellissa Ford, Angel love, Coco, Vida Guerra, Esther baxter, Tila Tequila, and more... Leo Marshall shot each one.

The parent company of Urbmob, Qmobile, is looking for a new model to promote on BET. All other models they choose will still be given a percentage of wallpaper/screensaver sells but they will not be actively promoted. If you're picked for this it's a win-win.

To find out more visit here:
Leo Marshall's Powershoot!

Here are a few links to Leo Marshall's work:
Official Wesbite of Leo Marshall Photography
Muscecube
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HOw are you about getting models paid?????? when you asking models to pay $150. Sound like a crock a doo doo to me. Also UrbMob and Qmobile are not the largest sellers of wallpapers, sorry to tell you this Jamster is, then there is Zingy.

This is more of a marketing ploy to get yall paid not the models hahahaha
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Crabs in a barrell don't read well. It's in the first two paragraphs.
But just for you MusicPro here's some vocab:

1. The second powershoot is moderated. That means the cost of the shoot is covered by the sponsor. It is swimwear only. You're a male and not eligible.

2. The first shoot is covered in part so that the models only have to pay 150.00 for hair, make-up and to shoot 2 looks. You obviously have no idea how much a fully professional shoot costs. MAU, stylists, designers, and photographers all have thier individual rates. Then depending on the shoot different types of lighting equipment is used or rented. Having a camera doesn't make a person a photography. Simply composing a shoot can be costly.

3. Jamster licenses some of their content from UrbMob. I happen to know Mike Johns from Jamster. They have more content but less content sells. Much is that is becuase of marketing practices that kept them from being able to sell to 2nd tier and 3rd tier mobile lines like metroPCS and virgin.

4. I'm an apprentice for Leo Marshall and not a partner. The word apprentince doesn't equate to employee. Wikipedia that. Apprentices are the same as interns. That means I'm not paid.

5. How can I be about models getting paid? Obviously you don't know what I do for a living. I don't see a need for you too so I won't elaborate.

This is a thread to possibly help some interested peoples get ahead. If you want to comment try being a little more knowlegable.

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HOw are you about getting models paid?????? when you asking models to pay $150. Sound like a crock a doo doo to me. Also UrbMob and Qmobile are not the largest sellers of wallpapers, sorry to tell you this Jamster is, then there is Zingy.

This is more of a marketing ploy to get yall paid not the models hahahaha

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Call it what you want. You come on here and say you are "all about getting models paid" but then you ask for $150

If you say you are about getting models paid I expect that you pay the models for this shoot, not moderate or ask for $150 thats why I said its a bunch of B.S.

I do know how much it cost for a photoshoot but what does this have to do when you on here telling people that you getting them paid. I just call it like I see it.

If you have to intern with a photographer I guess you need to get yourself paid before you can get model paid.

And you are VERY misinformed. Qmobile is not even close to a competitor to Jamster. and they do not need to license content from UrbMob unless Urbmob was trying to sell content with Jamster. Jamster is an international company operating in damn near all countries and was owned by a German company Jamba! which was recently bought out by Versign. Jamster is publicly traded. Qmobile claims to have serviced 3,000,000 phones since its inception 2003. Jamster in 2005 alone made 600 million in revenue. So you do the math. Qmobile boast of doing deals with "Smooth Mag, Black Men, etc." Jamster has licensing deals with Warner Bros, News Corp which actually a partner. Etc.

Has shyt to do with Crabs in the Barrel I just call out B.S. when I see it
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Come on now really?

1. Ok I'll be that.
2. Photographers, MUA, Stylists, and Designers spend money on their materials and thier craft. We don't shoot anyone for free. You obviously don't work for yourself.
3. You have no idea what a poweshoot is. It's used by agencies to see if they want to sign models. Models use it as a low cost way of working with phographers they can't afford.
4. Jamster? You have no idea what you are talking about. I built the backend of DigitalDolls. That company is owned by Leo Marshall. They all interface with the same API made by a company in Atlanta. Marketing numbers are about as believable as the hype of a promoted. Their actually sells are much lower then that. You have to validate a sell twice in order for the teleco to charge for it. Here's a little proof since your cuasing ruckuss without facts.
5. MusicPro still hasen't read the first paragraphs. There are two sperate shoots happening at one time.
6. 3 It factor members have already signed up.
7. Why would I want to charge models as an amatuer photographer when I can apprentice under an professional & international one? I think anyone could undersrand that the contacts and knowledge I gain from working under Leo is a whole lot more valuable then shooting any one model in atlanta or anywhere else.
8. Noticed no models have replied and backed you up? Thats cuase your talking trash about a photographer with one of the must trustworthy reputations in the industry. If you knew anything about the industry you wouldn't be speaking so loud about this individual or the way the buisness is being done.
9. Reputation is everything. I have an impeccable one.


Thats former miss USA Kenya Moore. She didn't shoot for free either.


Oh Reinya. Guess what. Talent like this isn't given away.

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Call it what you want. You come on here and say you are "all about getting models paid" but then you ask for $150

If you say you are about getting models paid I expect that you pay the models for this shoot, not moderate or ask for $150 thats why I said its a bunch of B.S.

I do know how much it cost for a photoshoot but what does this have to do when you on here telling people that you getting them paid. I just call it like I see it.

If you have to intern with a photographer I guess you need to get yourself paid before you can get model paid.

And you are VERY misinformed. Qmobile is not even close to a competitor to Jamster. and they do not need to license content from UrbMob unless Urbmob was trying to sell content with Jamster. Jamster is an international company operating in damn near all countries and was owned by a German company Jamba! which was recently bought out by Versign. Jamster is publicly traded. Qmobile claims to have serviced 3,000,000 phones since its inception 2003. Jamster in 2005 alone made 600 million in revenue. So you do the math. Qmobile boast of doing deals with "Smooth Mag, Black Men, etc." Jamster has licensing deals with Warner Bros, News Corp which actually a partner. Etc.

Has shyt to do with Crabs in the Barrel I just call out B.S. when I see it

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Come on now really?

1. Ok I'll be that.
2. Photographers, MUA, Stylists, and Designers spend money on their materials and thier craft. We don't shoot anyone for free. You obviously don't work for yourself.
3. You have no idea what a poweshoot is. It's used by agencies to see if they want to sign models. Models use it as a low cost way of working with phographers they can't afford.
4. Jamster? You have no idea what you are talking about. I built the backend of DigitalDolls. That company is owned by Leo Marshall. They all interface with the same API made by a company called air2web.
5. You still haven't reead the first paragraphs. There are two sperate shoots happening at one time.
6. 3 It factor members have already signed up.
7. Why would i want to charge models as an amtauer photographer when I can apprentice under an international one?

Please. Don't make anymore suggestions. I can see you leading lots of people nowhere. Not just on fashion. But on just about evertyhing you speak about.

I guess you still didn't get what I was saying.

anyway Digital Dolls huh, last time I checked it was owned by Jacob York then again things change. I heard all about it and I heard by quite a few models that they never seen a check for their content. Word on the street is that Digital Dolls never did much but sold a dream and I am not making this up, I am very well connected within the entertainment industry. Also from what I gather it was racermobile that provided digital dolls with the mobile platform, I might be wrong but short codes don't lie. Air2web is merely an aggregator and there a quite a few out there and sorry to tell you this that not everybody uses them. I can sit down tell you everything you would like but it would take to long and it is outside the scope of this board

I used to work with a company that dealt with models but they provided the models with EVERYTHING if they wanted to shoot them. Flight, Hotel, Shooting with well known photographer (Sean Cokes), Make up artist, Stylists, Hair all was Paid for and I did see some of the invoices that were in the $1200 range

Also as far as mobile I am very involved with several companies that license content of major recording artists that sold millions of ringtones such as Chamillionaire, mike jones, fat joe, etc. because more major record companies hire this particular company to feed the catalog of all major carriers T1, 2, 3. There is one that handles the majority of it.

Do your research buddy but I understand that you have to cover your ass since you are involved with the project and you have to make it sound as appealing as possible.

But as for as Leo Marshall yes he does excellent work and $150 to shoot with him is definitely a deal just with his name alone.

Your site or Digital Dolls came with pre boxed version of phpfox that you can buy for $300 and $39.95 per month its plug and play. So don't make it seem like you done something here. Anybody can do it. not to say that there is anything wrong with it because its about content but believe me, I have way more experience than you in this. I haven't interned anywhere since the 90"s.



Please believe that I KNOW what I am talking about, you obviously don't and of course you gonna make believe.

I am done with this. The only reason why I am on this shyt like I am because I can stand people that come in this business intern for someone that has a name and all of sudden they are a professional and know every damn thing when they don't. A dollar and a dream is does not qualify you to be a professional, experience and accomplishments do!

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Digital Dolls huh, last time I checked it was owned by Jacob York then again things change. I heard all about it and I heard by quite a few models that they never seen a check for their content. Word on the street is that Digital Dolls never did much but sold a dream
Half truths only cuase confusion. I don't really see why anyone would listen to you professionally. At first i thought of it as a friendly debate but i wouldn't associate with you in public. Just too ignorant and I've noticed a lack of commenting from anyone else in this thread.

Jacob York doesn't own thing. He was the CEO. That doesn't make him the owner. He never will be. He mismanaged all our resources terribly. He put the company into production before the billing system was made in attempt to make money from google adsense... no content was never sold and therfore nobody rated a check. Unfortunately I wasn't paid either. Some of his former co-workers now work with or for me.

Air2web is owned collectively by the big 4 mobiles companies in the US. They have a monopoly. If it hits the airwaves it goes through them.

The only other mobile media companies use their API at discounted rates or they deal with companies like Mediamaxx over seas.

No I don't get it. And nobody else is backing you. There's a reason for that. Anything else?
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Your site or Digital Dolls came with pre boxed version of phpfox that you can buy for $300 and $39.95 per month its plug and play. So don't make it seem like you done something here. Anybody can do it.
Anyone can buy software. Not just anyone can do what i do. I run a sight that has applicaitons I wrote intergrated with others.

Did you notice the directory has a listing of every licensed agency in Texas, California, and Florida? I built that app. Did you notice the email digest? I built that too. I can't even upgrade my software becuase I've modifed the core code way too much. Therefore when patches are released I or another developer have painstaking go through the changelog to see if we can implement the new features. We often end up re-writting the upgrade so that we can. You might make a good politician. But you couln't decipher a line of any code i've written. We both know your not that smart.

Anyhoo, any IT person with sense knows that it's better to intergrate then to build something from the ground up. Let me give you an example some pre-packed software. Ever heard of a board called ITfactormodels? It runs on a domain formerly associated with Melyssa Ford.

Well that was store bought too. It's called vBulletin forum software and it costs $150.00. BUTrunning a site is more complicated then that. Code is changed, made, and customized to fit your needs. And then there is hardware... My forum runs on the same software. I'm not usually personal in conversations but honestly your not that smart...

All i'm seeing here is one crab in a barrell trying to prove a point around information that he could have gotten out of the first two paragraphs. Thats surface and you still haven't said anything about digitaldolls but heresay. I was actually involved.

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The only reason why I am on this shyt like I am because I can stand people that come in this business intern for someone that has a name and all of sudden they are a professional and know every damn thing when they don't. A dollar and a dream is does not qualify you to be a professional, experience and accomplishments do!
I don't intern. I apprrentice. There's a difference there. My buisness runs while i sleep which allows me the freedom to do that. And much of this project is dependent on resouces i'm donating. My email list, my servers, my software. My coding...

Accomplishments?
Here's one. Smashing Pumpkins

To make matters worse. You're backtracking which is cuasing confusion. This is Leo Marshall's project. Regardless of where some of the resources are coming from you've been talking trash about the way he is doing it and wants it done. Anyone can also see that. Your issue should be with Leo. but my guess is your just another person wanting attention in the forum. People like yourself would kiss Leo's tail if he posted the PowerShoot information in this forum himself... Probably not cuase you respect him but becuase you value attention. That means you'll respect people that command more attention then you do. Atlanta is full of wannabees like that.

You say have a problem with the way I do things but honestly you're attacking Leo's buissness practices. Not mine... and then you say you respect him?

Where I'm from people like that are called lames...
We used to call them "two faced".

I've never seen so much ignorance in one thread.

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u guys play nice!
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Everything I said is what it is. So you staffed 2 models for a music video whooptie damn do. YOu are a intern, ok so you wnat to be called an apprentice, just a fancy word for intern.

Digital Dolls is what it is and it was not only seen that way by me matter of fact I don't give a damn about it but it was told to me by several models involved that do have a name in this business. So the truth is the truth if you like it or not.

I know more about you than you think I do. Belive THAT.
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u guys play nice!
Why? This guy is a crab ass.

Claiming to respect a well known photographer but attacking me about the way that guy does buisness? No matter what else he may say that is how this thread started. Let's watch this crab deflect from that. Did anyone besides me catch that?

But a crab like this would kiss Leo's ass in person and ask to be on his guest list. He'd even probably want to do buisness with the guy.

Then posting his BS about things that were answered clearly in the post. I.E. how the models get paid and otherwise.

Highjacking a thread to get attention and asking in rude ways how models will get paid when everything is clearly written?

There's nothing worse then a whining male diva that needs attention online.

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My name is Mike Mckoy.

Why not identify yourself so everyone working on this project could have the choice of ignoring or contacting you. Sounds like they'd want your perspective since your an insider and you know the real scoop...

But he's really probably a "nobody" with access to the internet that managed to make a few friends in the industry from afar.

And since your so well versed in what happened with Digitaldolls, etc...
There were three people involved in that project until I came on board to make four. Three were men and one was a woman. Leo and I make two and your not Jacob York or the woman. I have never seen a fifth name on any of the communications between the four of us. And one of the major problems with DD is that the executive management didn't communicate with the models at ALL. And the celebrity models that were involved were managed by the female owner. So how could you know anything?

He's talking trash but he'll gawk when members come back with great images from the shoot.

Crab...

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