Heroes on NBC, Mondays - Page 11

Englishchocolate · 12-02-2007

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Originally Posted by RedEarth

Getting back to the show, I gotta say man, this whole season has really been off!!

I've been hearing them say on the TV guide channel that the ratings are down like 15% because people are dissatisfied with certain things, the viewers are saying the storyline was moving too slowly, Hiro was in Japan too long, etc. The one thing I HATED was how they never could seem to figure out what to do with Micah's father as a black male character, so they just kept getting him shot up. (It also would have been nice to have a successful show like this on television, with a black father as a part of an intact family unit in the household throughout the whole series.)

But how does the ONE character on the show with powers to render his body intangible and walk through solid matter, get shot up with bullets not once, not twice, but 3 damn times in the span of one season?!!

Have you seen the interview with Tim Kring about the beginning of the season?

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'Heroes' Creator Apologizes to Fans
Tim Kring admits mistakes were made at the beginning of season 2, but promises to get back on track

''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us,'' says Kring of the love stories starring Claire and Hiro
Mitchell Haaseth
All AboutHeroes

By Jeff Jensen Jeff Jensen
Jeff Jensen, an EW senior writer, has been despondent since the cancellation of ''Twin Peaks''On the chilly Monday morning that Hollywood's writers went on strike, Heroes creator Tim Kring called from the streets outside the Hollywood studio where his NBC series is shot. ''Yes, I'm picketing my own show,'' says the 50-year-old writer-producer. ''So surreal.''

But Kring wasn't calling to discuss labor woes — he was calling to explain why Heroes, suffering a creative decline and a 15 percent ratings drop from the same period last year, went from Human Torch hot to Iceman cold. The good news? A turnaround appears to be under way. After weeks of sluggish storytelling, the Nov. 5 episode recaptured some of last season's fanciful energy. We've also seen the next two episodes — and we like them, too. The cliff-hangers are back. Narrative purpose has been discovered. Old favorites like Peter (Milo Ventimiglia) and Horn-Rimmed Glasses (Jack Coleman) take center stage. Even more encouraging: Kring himself is keenly aware that Heroes is broken. Here's his candid critique:

THE PACE IS TOO SLOW ''We assumed the audience wanted season 1 — a buildup of intrigue about these characters and the discovery of their powers. We taught [them] to expect a certain kind of storytelling. They wanted adrenaline. We made a mistake.''

THE WORLD-SAVING STAKES SHOULD HAVE BEEN ESTABLISHED SOONER The premonition of nuclear apocalypse created a larger context that unified every story line last season. Kring now sees that Volume 2 (the first 11 episodes of season 2) would have been better served if Peter's vision of viral Armageddon had appeared in the season premiere rather than episode 7. ''We took too long to get to the big-picture story,'' he says.

THE ROOKIES DIDN'T GREET THEMSELVES PROPERLY New Heroes Monica (Dana Davis), Maya (Dania Ramirez), and Alejandro (Shalim Ortiz) ''shouldn't have been introduced in separate story lines that felt unattached to the show. The way we introduced Elle (Kristen Bell) — by weaving her in via Peter's story line — is a more logical way to bring new characters into the show.'' (That said, Kring says a few newbies won't make it beyond this second volume, which wraps Dec. 3.)

HIRO WAS IN JAPAN WAY TOO LONG Hiro's (Masi Oka) time-bending adventure in 17th-century Japan — where he mentored samurai hero Takezo Kensei (David Anders) — finally came to an end on Nov. 5. But Kring says it ''should have [lasted] three episodes. We didn't give the audience enough story to justify the time we allotted it.''

YOUNG LOVE STINKS Kring regrets sticking Claire (Hayden Panettiere) with a super-dud boyfriend and forcing Hiro to moon over a cutesy princess. ''I've seen more convincing romances on TV,'' he admits. ''In retrospect, I don't think romance is a natural fit for us.''

Yet while Heroes has finally found some dramatic traction, this second volume is pretty much a wash. The Dec. 3 episode has been retooled to function as a potential season finale — a move inspired by the writers' strike and a desire to give the show ''a clean slate'' when it goes back into production for Volume 3. At that point, Kring wants to craft a rebooted Heroes that can attract new fans and win back those who've tuned out: ''The message is that we've heard the complaints — and we're doing something about it.''

If they had to let DL die, he should've died a hero I agree, and can they PLEASE name 'The Haitan'!

I really wish they had built more on the characters they had instead of just introducing these new ones with no story... We had to wait until about about ep 5 or 6 I think, to get their backgrounds and by then it was too late for me to care about them.

Englishchocolate · 05-13-2008

It's back in the fall, and I have to say I'm liking the look of volume 3.

YouTube

Locutus 2.0 · 05-13-2008

Thanks EC!!!

RedEarth · 05-13-2008

Yeah thanks for posting that EC. Been wondering what the new word is on that show.

sincere7 · 05-15-2008

Good sh!t!!

Englishchocolate · 09-23-2008

Well anyone watch it? I'm trawling through my usual spots to find the first episode and I can't

Locutus 2.0 · 09-23-2008

I'll PM you the links to Download it

sincere7 · 09-27-2008

I just finished watching for the second time and there are so many twist this season. I hope they dont try to go over board because the first episode left a hell of a lot to be explained!!

Englishchocolate · 09-28-2008

Mohinder AKA Mohindrance... Dumbhinder. Can a scientist really be so stupid?

Locutus 2.0 · 09-28-2008

^^LMAO!! I agree with that...

But think about this: How is Future Peter gonna get Present Peter out of dude who does Sound Manipulation?