Edwards is dropping out of Pres race (?)

I'm wondering if he's going to throw his support behind Obama or Clitton.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/01/...rds/index.html

mrmckoy

Ok, your just talking your and not reading what I wrote.

Becoming a naturalized American citizen is more difficult then learning asian characters unless they are married to an American, in the military, or sponsored by a company with an H1 visa (and if they lose that job they have to leave the country immediately. Can't even get a job with another company).

If they have no education (which they can't get in their own countries without a birth certificate) they won't be sponsored because they have no skills.

Its hard as hell to get in the American military without lying. Everyone I know that went to MEPS had to lie just to get to boot camp. (including me)

Marriage to international citizens can't be done without state departement approval. Without that you can't bring them to the states.

Same with the military (marriage must be approved).

I still don't care about your Uncle. He doesn't matter here.

IMAX

Looks like we're gonna have to agree to disagree.
I'm not changing my mind. And you're not gonna change yours.
I want a separate America, Canada, & Mexico (have nothing against Canada or Mexico...)
And you want to the NAU...

mrmckoy

Doesn't matter what I want or you for that matter. Although I do agree that we have to disagree.

12 million (if thats even a correct count) illegals are having babies and those are citizens. They have political power and are shaping our country's future and i'm happy they are here. No need to rot endlessly in a hell hole.

If you were born in any of those countries you would want to be here.

isolationism is a concept that leads to hatred, jealously, predjudice, and war. And every time America goes into that isolationist mode it falls into reccession and way behind the rest of the world.

Doesn't matter whether there is a NAU. I doubt there will be becuase that would mean the value of the dollar would fall and we would have to take steps to correct the injustices we've placed on Central, South Americans, and Mexicans. A NAU would mean that corruption in these other goverments would have to cease (something we did a great deal to cause). Also, the dollar is a fake currency. A NAU would mean we would have to put some tangible value behind the dollar (like gold for example). That would make a lot of folks unhappy.

As for Canada...If tight controls were placed on that side of the border you could gaurantee our finnacial system would collapse.

As always, people are afraid of what they don't understand but like it or not change is coming. Peace and prosperity go hand in hand. You can't have peace without prosperity. Give 'em a chance.

King Of Kings

Edwards doesn't necessarily have to back anyone... he could stay neutral if he wants. He did make each democratic candidate pledge to help the poor and seems to be staying neutral for now.

As for McCain wanting to open the borders. that's already been a proven fabrication and was even acknowledged by his rival Mitt Romney. As an Arizona Senator McCain was in favor of border security.

I wouldn't mind McCain as president if it came down to it. He's a good guy and a patriot. Not to mention a tough son of a b*tch who had to endure 8 years as a POW in Vietnam and came close to death 3 times. He's a decorated retired Naval Officer and has had a great political career. If there was one Republican candidate I'd vote for it would be McCain.

and I don't know about you... but I didn't lie at all to get into the Marine Corps. the Marine Corps has "waivers" and if you qualify for a waiver you can get in. If you lie about something that can be traced and will get you kicked out, most times you'll get caught...

as for illegals coming into the country... I don't care as long as they get legal once they get here. If you get here illegally then take the necessary steps to have some legality about you. I'd prefer you take the legal route in getting here but we can't police everybody all the time so some illegals slip through the cracks. If that happens, work towards naturalization and becoming a citizen. This country was founded on immigration and people coming here from foreign countries looking for a better life... why change the dynamic of letting people come here for opportunities they don't have in their own countries now?

Lil' Soul

I definitely dig how you humanized the plight of the illegal immigrants in this country.. and shed light on why they give up so much just to get into the United States. Props.

However, I notice that you keep telling people that they are not reading what you are saying. Your perspectives on issues.. along with the points you mention.. don’t necessarily mean you’ve influenced a person to your views. I think most of the cats you debate with do read your posts.. and gain a pretty clear idea of what you are trying to impart. I just don’t think they agree with the points.. or consider them moving enough to change their minds.

Again.. nice job on the insights. I don’t agree with opening the borders.. But the situation is fvcked up all around. Hopefully, a solution can be found to grant quick entry into our country for those who want to be here. Along with tight security measures that can guard us against potential terrorists or other threats to our society.

More diversity would be great.

IMAX

My bad for reading the ClintonNewsNetwork.com on the candidates.
I should have known better.

Lil Soul...
Being a military brat & growing up South Florida was great with the diversity.
I just want them to be legal & pay taxes like everyone else. That's all.

Lil' Soul

I wasn’t trying to knock you with that statement man. Your points were just as valid and I understand them. I agree that it’s only fair to have any man or woman living in a country.. do so legally and pay into the same tax system that the citizens pay into.

frisc

Actually Edwards was a good candidate...the problem with the Democrat ticket is that who ever looses, between Obama and Clinton, the Republicans are going to target their voters to make up the slack, because so much focus is on Obama and Clinton, this has split the whole party and that may be a major issue in the end...

mrmckoy

Soul, I'll work on that. I tend to stand my ground if I have knowledge of something. But like most devil dogs, i'm no great Orator.

King,

Didn't konw about Mcain on the border issue but I assumed it to be true and agreed. I like the man and totally wished he was President a long time ago.

Lying about criminal backgrounds will get you put out quickly and yes you can get waivers. I know guys that had waivers for every drug out there. But they were mostly likely giving the option of the military by the courts and even without that they aren't going to get a MOS worth anything. You can be 0311, sure... You don't have to be smart to catch a 7.62. The DoD is cool with that. No way any of those guys will ever get a security clearance or MOS that translates into a good job n the outside. (admin maybe, infantry cool. but no comm).

But they (MEPs) want to know too much. If I declared every injury I had back in '96 I'd still be at MEPs trying to explain to the docs why they should have let me in. They want perfect "Arian" type citizens and that just doesn't exist.

My situation was that i'm flat footed and had a host of athelitic injuries over the years. I wore braces as a child and the doctors had to surgically break both legs so that I could run and walk normally. I wear supports in my shoes to compensate for having no arches. I paid for it too... Came out of P.I. with two hairline fractures in both legs and force marches over 15 miles are a mofo. But I press on. I love it.

Honestly, I think that a lot of people in this country have just lost touch. Most of the people here are products of immigrants that came here to escape persecution (jews, irish, chinese, pilgrims, etc...). We seem to think we're better and I did too before the Corps increased my travels. I've seen some pretty horrible shyt and no human being should have to live in those ways.

Imax, i'm just saying think about it. What makes an entire haitian family attempt to get across rough seas in a canoe just to have a chance at eating on the regular? I've been in rough seas man. Doing that in a canoe, dingy, etc... is pure sucide. Yet its worth the risk for them.

And if they have no birth certificate how do they become legal? They are basically stateless peoples and some of them don't even know their age. Also you'd be surprised how many peoples the border patrol purposely lets through. The shyt is hella depressing to see with your own eyes.

King Of Kings

I feel you on that one... a lot of guys have to lie about their medical conditions in order to get in. Fortunately I've never had any serious medical issues so I didn't have to lie. And yes it's better to try to understand illegal immigrants motives for wanting to enter the country and not scorning or discouraging them from living their dream of coming here for a better life...