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Blue Eyes Caused By Genetic Mutation
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Okay, here is an article that I've seen on several websites such as CNN, MSNBC, and FOXNEWS. I took FOXNEWS' article. It discusses how 6 to 10,000 years ago there was a genetic mutation somewhere along the line that caused a reduction of melanin in man which led to paler skin and lighter eyes. Much like albinism which is just an extreme reduction or the absence of melanin. Melanin is what causes pigmentation in the skin, hair, eyes and other areas of the body that need it. Melanin is in all genetic material and is what causes the color of all areas of your body. Even in your organs. What this article states is that all people at one time had color and brown eyes. Then there was a genetic mutation and caused blue eyes. All the other colors are how much of a reduction you have in your pigmentation. And all people who have a reduction in pigmentation have a common ancestor with that mutant person. So in essence the people with the reduction melanin or pigmentation are Caucasian and are a result of a genetic mutation of people with melanin or pigment and brown eyes.

My point is, I've been teaching this since I was 16 years old... I've always believed and it's just weird to me that scientist are now just catching on to what I've been saying for like 14 years... it's nothing against Caucasian people because I think genetic mutation and variation is special. It provides a diversity in species. It's just this is the answer I've always given whenever anyone would ask why there are different races. And if you can remember, I've even given this response on the board on countless occasions... you can read it here:

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,327070,00.html

If you've got blue eyes, shake the hand of the nearest person who shares your azure irises: He or she may be a distant cousin.

Danish researchers have concluded that all blue-eyed people share a common ancestor, presumably someone who lived 6,000 to 10,000 years ago.

"Originally, we all had brown eyes," Professor Hans Eiberg of the University of Copenhagen said in a press release. "But a genetic mutation affecting the OCA2 gene in our chromosomes resulted in the creation of a 'switch,' which literally 'turned off' the ability to produce brown eyes."

That "switch" — a simple change from "A," or adenine, to "G," or guanine, in the DNA — actually sits next to the OCA2 gene, which regulates the pigmentation of our eyes, hair and skin, and hence has only a limiting effect on it.

If the mutation had completely deactivated OCA2, all blue-eyed people would be albinos.

Eiberg and his team analyzed 155 individuals in a large Danish family, plus several blue-eyed people born in Turkey and Jordan.

All blue-eyed subjects had the mutation, and there was very little variation on the genes neighboring it on the chromosome, indicating that the mutation first arose relatively recently.

In contrast, most mammals share the "normal" form of the gene. The six-letter sequence is exactly the same among mice, horses, cows, rats, dogs, cats, monkeys, chimpanzees and humans with brown eyes. (No word on what gives Siberian huskies and Siamese cats blue eyes.)

Eiberg figures the mutation took place on the northern of the Black Sea, but that's an educated guess, assuming the first blue-eyed humans were among the proto-Indo-Europeans who subsequently spread agriculture into western Europe and later rode horses into Iran and India.

Ironically, neither the first person to have the mutation, nor his or her children, would have had blue eyes themselves.

Blue eyes are a recessive trait, and the gene must be inherited from both parents. (Green eyes involve a related but different gene, one that is recessive to brown but dominant to blue.)

It wasn't until the original mutant's grandchildren or great-grandchildren hooked up — cousin marriage is the norm through most of human history — that the first blue-eyed person appeared. He or she must have looked pretty odd for the Neolithic era.

Eiberg stresses that the genetic variation, as the press release puts it, is "neither a positive nor a negative mutation."

That's a bit disingenuous, as the mutation also produces greater instance of blond hair (sexually selected for even today) and fair skin, which confers a survival advantage by stimulating greater production of vitamin D in sun-starved northern European countries — exactly where blue eyes are still most prevalent.
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And if you can remember, I've even given this response on the board on countless occasions...
You not the only one man..

This is the same type of mutated variation that keeps all people from having the exact same hair texture, foot size, body hair thickness and placement, ear shape and every other damn thing that gradually became diverse among humans.

What does that suggest? Ha.. That race is an illusion. A manmade construct of perception to cause division, where there really is none. It will be interesting to see if we ever get over culture and nationalism to discover the truth about ourselves: There are only two types of people. Men and women. Everything else is irrelevant.

I don’t think scientists are just now catching on though. The theory has been in place for.. damn.. as long as I can remember. I think the new discovery, is the exact code in the DNA sequence that identified common ancestry among people with those physical traits. They forgot to add in that article as well.. that the lack of melanin from that mutation does not affect the total amount in the body. Some fair skinned cats have more melanin in other parts of their bodies than dark skinned people.. and vice versa.
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Exactly Soul! I forgot to mention that the variation extends to other characteristics you listed. And you hit the nail on the head about how race is an illusion and we're all the same, just genetic variations of each other. It's funny how a slight change in DNA and genetic material can be the cause of variation and differences. And that such a shift in mentality toward each other. You're right that scientists have flirted with the idea and theory of this for a while but didn't have concrete proof or the exact code that caused it. Now we can dismiss the myth of religion and their ridiculous claims as to why there different races of people on earth...

I agree, it will be interesting to see if we can get over culture and nationalism to accept these truths and unite as a species. Like you said, the only types of people in the world are men and women...

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Good Post... I figured that was the case. A white science teacher @ my high school almost lost his job, telling his students that the first people on earth were black & that white people were a mutation... Considering my high school was created due to the racism in our rival school, I'm not surprised @ the reaction...

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A white science teacher @ my high school almost lost his job, telling his students that the first people on earth were black & that white people were a mutation...
Ain’t that some dumb sh!t.. Fact is fact. Makes me think about how vehemently some people scream that Jesus had fair skin and blue eyes. Yea, sure.. Or how about those idiots.. only here in the United States mind you.. that try to deny evolution in favor of creationism. Evolution is not a theory. It’s not 99% possible.. It’s fact. A complete and total certainty. You can go to the fvcking museum yourself and see the damn evidence.
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Wow! This is news to me. Thanks.
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how about when i say black ppl with green eyes is a mutation ppl look at me like im retarded. i wasnt that far off. i mastered the punnett square in bio class, lmao

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Some fair skinned cats have more melanin in other parts of their bodies than dark skinned people.. and vice versa.
That explains why my d!ck is big and thick; it's a bit darker than the rest of my body so that's where the highest concentration of my melanin is.

Speaking of Europeons, that'll explain why maaarf's guppycock and baby size balls are as blue as his eyes.

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So King,
I light of this, what views do you have on the curse of Cain...that same curse that Noah gave to the decendents of Ham...
It was a mark, but I'm sure you already know that.
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I'm glad you asked that... The "mark" that was placed on Cain was a physical mark but again this is the mythology of religion. Things back then were interpreted as Omen's and having to do with something Esoteric. So when the scroll was written illustrating what happened to Cain it was interpreted as a curse... What Cain had on him was present since birth and it was what's commonly known as a "birthmark" and it was on his face. I'm sure you've seen children and adults with birthmarks that cover a large part of their face. This was the mark that he had and as the myth goes it was placed there as a sign to anyone he encountered that he had slain his brother and to steer clear of him. He and his brother came from the same womb hence the word "birth-mark" You have to understand the primitive mentality of the time, they perceived it as since he killed his brother this must have been something that was pre-determined and was the reason why he had this birthmark.

As far as Noah and Ham, the curse that Noah gave to Ham and his descendants was a physical curse as well. The descendants of Ham that received the curse was Canaan when he said "cursed be Canaan, a servant of servants shall he be to his brethren" Canaan was born with a physical ailment called albinism. He was born without pigment and sensitivity to light. He was tormented by his brothers and his family and made to do their bidding. His sensitivity to light caused him to run away from the desert they lived in and go live in the mountains of Seir which is in the area of Palestine and Israel. They were eventually forced from this area by the Israelites in Exodus and Leviticus. Leviticus explains how this was done and what the Canaanites looked like... see chapters 13 and 14 of Leviticus for details...

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